Him, and it never flagged or wearied in spite of the hundreds who passed; the last were greeted as warmly as the first.

When a woman brought Him several assorted gifts, including two good-sized statuettes of angels, Baba called all the women in, and then said:

"In India, when My devotees worship Me, they sometimes forget I am human. They burn incense and bring Me gifts: The incense makes My eyes water. They crack cocoanuts at My feet, as if I were a statue. And Baba is uncomfortable. Baba is human!

"Why do you bring Me all these gifts? It is not necessary. Only love counts. Baba does not need these things; in giving them to Baba you place a burden on Him. Give them instead to some one who needs them."

She answered: "I do it because I love you, Baba."

Baba replied: "Isn't it enough to bring Me your love? You are poor."

"But Baba, I must express my love for You! "

"If you must express your love, then give in My name to the poor." He added: "I give not what people want, but what they need." The woman later remarked that Baba gives Selfhood, of His Divine Self.

After this interlude, more interviews followed. Around 4 o'clock, Baba called Ella in to question her about the interview program. Then He told her that all the world was an illusion, it was like a dream and that only God was real. He called for all those waiting in the other room—over one hundred—and when they were assembled, He gestured to Ivy Duce to repeat what He had just told Ella. She started to repeat His words, but evidently, not too exactly, for Baba interrupted her, saying, "You speak as if you were in a dream!"

After the laughter that followed, Baba went on to repeat His own story:

"Baba told Ella that all this is nothing but a dream. Only God is real. And God is in everything, in you and in Me. When Ella goes to sleep and sees the dream in her sleep, her body is on the bed. Yet she goes about, engrossed in the body; she enjoys a good dinner, eats well, feels happy. Then sometimes she feels very sad, she suffers. Both pleasure and pain are there in the dream, yet the body is there on the bed. It doesn't go anywhere, it doesn 't do anything; yet it enjoys.

"Baba comes there in the dream while she is enjoying or while she is suffering an illusion; and Baba tells her, 'Ella, don't worry, this will all