Baba continued: "The fourth plane is called the threshold of the Abode of God. If a man on the fourth plane tries to harass one on the fifth plane (a Wali) with his powers, then the Wali on the fifth plane seeks the help of the Avatar (Rasool), but not of a Qutub. Thus he is protected directly by the Avatar from the pranks of the fourth-plane man and the latter's powers are curbed. Very rarely does one on the 4th plane ever become arrogant to a Qutub; if at all there is any mischief or arrogance displayed, the Qutub sternly deals with such a person and he eventually surrenders to the Qutub. The Qutub then raises him to the fifth plane of consciousness at once.

In the Fana-Fillah state, there are 56 souls. The state of Baqa means to be established in God and being able to use Infinite Power, Infinite Knowledge and Infinite Bliss. A Qutub is the one who leads the life of God and uses Infinite Power, Infinite Knowledge and Infinite Bliss. Some Sufis believe that Fana-Fillah is the highest state. Others believe that Qutub state is the highest, while still others believe the state of the Rasool to be the highest.

On the fifth afternoon, referring to his Five Perfect Masters, Baba said: "Tajuddin Baba, Sai Baba and Babajan were of the Jalali and Jamali traits. Upasni Maharaj was only a Jalali, while Narayan Maharaj was only a Jamali. These five Qutubs precipitated the advent of the Avatar of the age. Of the present five Qutubs, three are Hindus and two are Muslims. They are all men. My next advent will be after 700 years when all the five Perfect Masters will be men.

"If a man on the fourth plane misuses his powers and if the Qutub is a Jamali, he does not bring the fourth-planer to the stone consciousness, but brings him down only to a gross-conscious human being. But if the Qutub is of a Jalali trait, then he will bring about his fall right to the stone-consciousness. The Avatar never contacts the man on the fourth plane (except his Agent), for in that case the fourth-planer will automatically lose all his Powers. But if the one on the fourth plane approaches a Qutub, he accepts him and raises him to the fifth-plane consciousness."

Baba continued that a Qutub, i.e. a Perfect Master, can appear in physical form in ten places simultaneously, while the Avatar can do so in a thousand different places. A Perfect Master has two types of agents: a) Abdal, and b) Avtad. An Abdal can take many forms—usually that of an old man or a child. Suppose a pilgrim of the spiritual Path is very thirsty and is about