"Those who are raw in love, do not know of the pain they give to their Beloved. That love which gives the slightest bit of burden to the Beloved is not love."

Baba then went to his room while the Mandali had lunch. He returned at 12:40 P.M. to be with the Mandali and a few of us. Some more lovers from Andhra had just arrived and so they embraced Baba. The number grew so big that Baba had to shift to the assembly hall. Adi and Lata sang the same ghazals they had sung in the morning. One of the lovers from Andhra also sang in Telegu. A lover spokesman from Andhra invited Baba to come to Andhra. Baba said, "I know I love the Andhraites very much, but I cannot promise a visit. If I go anywhere, I will go to Andhra."

A tape recording received from New York from Louis Agostini was played. He gave several talks interspersed by Indian music. After it had finished, Baba said, "In God Speaks I have explained about the sun representing the Vidnyan Bhumika, the region near it as the Mana or Mental Bhumika, the region still further away from it as the Prana or Subtle Bhumika, while this gross world, being farthest from it is the Anna Bhumika. But I have not mentioned therein that the Anna Bhumika has two states: the first, Ignorance; and the second, Intellectual Conviction. The 'sun' sheds its rays all over. On the Mana Bhumika, the rays are very powerful. On the Prana Bhumika they are mild, while on the Anna Bhumika they are milder. Some take the advantage of the 'sun' and bask in its sunshine on the Anna Bhumika, while others out of ignorance stay under a roof and do not take advantage of the 'sun.' Basking in the sunshine on the Anna Bhumika is called 'Ilime Yakin', i.e. Intellectual Conviction. The state of Qutubiyat, though on the Anna Bhumika, has its place in the 'sun' itself for it is one with the 'sun.' My consciousness is on all Planes or Bhumikas simultaneously. Jigar says that the other name for Love is annihilation, so do not seek life in Love. Do not seek life in the rays of the sun, but become the sun itself."

Baba then began talking about his five Perfect Masters. He said two of them were Hindus, two were Muslims, while Sai Baba was both Hindu and Muslim. At night Sai Baba would rest on seven bolts of cloth supplied by his followers, from time to time, for making robes for Sai Baba to wear. Before leaving the mosque and going to the Chavdi (his night resting place), Sai Baba would wave his hand seven times in the air as if blessing someone. If anyone called Babajan 'Mai' (mother) she would get very angry and say she was not a woman! She would constantly go on stroking her arms, as if brushing off something. This gesture of hers had great significance.

Baba related a funny incident. Once when he was in seclusion on a hilltop in Kashmir, Gustadji and Chanji served as watch-keepers. Chanji was equipped with a penknife and Gustadji with his silence! A small